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Friday, October 10, 2014


Christian historians have been trying to date Rig Veda to 1500 BC ( instead of 5000 BC ) because as per  Bible the big bang happened in 4004 BC at 9 AM on 23rd October.  

The white master race had NOT invented or discovered anything till they came to India, other than what they grabbed from the Arabs to whom we sold our knowledge in gold.
As soon the immoral white invader came to India they learnt Sanskrit, stole our intellectual rights patented it in their names and destroyed the originals  ( or kept it back after injecting POISON into the originals ).
Why should a Master learn the language of a slave ?

The Vedas are a worthless set of books.  There is no reason either to call them sacred or infallible.  Nobody has had the courage to ask why these worthless books which contain nothing but invocation to tribal gods to destroy the enemies, loot their property and give it to their followers, have been made sacred and infallible.

Mahatma Jyotirao Phule

The Vedas are idle fantasies and absurd legends, which have NO sancity .  If there is only one God, who created the whole mankind, why did he write the Vedas only in Sanskrit language despite his anxiety for the welfare of the whole mankind?  What about the welfare of those who do not understand this language?   Vedas are a form of false consciousness .

"They were very advanced Hindu astronomers in 6000 BCE. Vedas contain an account of the dimension of Earth, Sun, Moon, Planets and Galaxies." (Calendars and Constellatio'  - Emmelin Plunret  )

After 30000 years by oral route, the Vedas were penned down in 5000 BC  — the Maharishis predicted that the human DNA will  getting degraded , pineal glands would get atrophied , memories and mental acuity would  deteriorate.

All the writings below are more than 7000 years old.

Earth goes around the sun – Rg Veda 10. 22. 14. and Yajur Veda 3. 6.

Sun and whole universe are round – Yajur Veda 20. 23

Shape of Earth is like an Oblate Spheroid. (Rig VedaXXX. IV.V)

Moon is enlightened by the sun – Yajur Veda 18, 20.

‘Earth is flattened at the poles’ (Markandeya Purana 54.12)

Blue Sky is Nothing but scattered sunlight (Markandeya Purana 78.8)

There are many suns – Rg Veda 9. 114. 3.

Seven colours in the sun – Atharva Veda 7. 107. 1.

Electromagnetic field, conversion of mass and energy – Rg 10. 72.

The gravitational effect of solar system makes the earth stable (R.V.1-103-2, 1-115-4 and 5-81-2).

The axle of the earth does not get rusted ,the earth continues to revolve on its axle (R.V. 1-164-29)

The Sun never sets or rises and it is the earth, which rotates (Sama-Ved 121).

The science of Time and its subtle nature is described in (R.V.1-92-12 and 1-95-8)
Planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto were named Shweta, Shyama and Teevra in our Vedas  ( Vyasa Muni). . The names of the rest of the planets have been used in astrology in the rashis.  Uranus , Neptune and Pluto are NOT used in horoscopes as they stay in a single rashi for too long and are too far away to effect the human DNA.
Ptolemy came to India in 155 AD, and he stole from the astronomical data from Surya Siddhanta (12.85-90) , the most significant being the diameters of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn . You must understand that these diameters were calculated accurately more than 7 millenniums ago when even the atmospheric refraction of earth was different.

Greeks Pythagoras and Plato studied in India. Orpheus was an Indian sage.

"From the Vedas we learn a practical art of surgery, medicine, music, house building under which mechanized art is included. They are encyclopedia of every aspect of life, culture, religion, science, ethics, law, cosmology and meteorology."  -William James, American Author
 Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have felt that some unearthly and unknown light illuminated me.  In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no touch of sectarianism.  It is of all ages, climbs, and nationalities and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge. When I read it, I feel that I am under the spangled heavens of a summer night. “  Henry David Thoreau, American Thinker 

"India - The land of Vedas, the remarkable works contain not only religious ideas for a perfect life, but also facts which science has proved true. Electricity, radium, electronics, airship, all were known to the seers who founded the Vedas."   --Wheeler Wilcox

“ This idea of a periodically expanding and contracting universe, which involves a scale of time and space of vast proportions, has arisen not only in modern cosmology, but also in ancient Indian mythology “ Fritjof Caprag.
Thinkers like Carl Sagan and Fritjof Capra have pointed out similarities between the latest scientific understanding of the age of the universe, and the Hindu concept of a "day and night of Brahma", which is much closer to the current known age of the universe than other creation views.  
The days and nights of Brahma posit a view of the universe that is divinely created- an ongoing cycle of birth, death, and rebirth of the universe. Rather inhalation and exhalation as in a Klein bottle.
Even a dim-wit will notice that modern science says the same thing written in the Vedas 7000 years ago—which had gone down thousands of years by the sruti oral route.
Immediately after the exhalation ( big bang ) the inflationary mode ends, having made the universe smooth and almost homogenous. Matter, anti-matter, and radiation are a bubbling opaque stew.  And an uninterrupted continuum of fluid. 
Few seconds after the exhalation ( big bang ) the universe expands. Matter and anti-matter annihilate each other.  There is slightly more matter and this excess comprises the matter in the cosmos today forming galaxies.   It came in material form and shape -- Brahman and his intent ( heat of tapas ).
Vedas have always suggested that as long you are in search of the causative forces only, you will not get the answer.  Stephen W. Hawking, famous theoretical physicist of the present day, says in his book “A Brief History Time”: “If the density of the matter in the universe is greater than the critical value, gravity will stop the expansion ( exhalation ) at some time in the future”

Will the universe eventually stop expanding and start contracting or will it expand forever?
Stephen W. Hawking, famous theoretical physicist of the present day, says in his book “A Brief History Time”: “If the density of the matter in the universe is greater than the critical value, gravity will stop the expansion at some time in the future” .   
As we are not in a position at present to calculate the density even to an approximation, we cannot answer the question ( so convenient ) .
Robert Jastrow confirms that modern science now  envisaging a cosmos ( like in the vedas ) that oscillates forever passing through infinite number of moments of creation in a never-ending cycle of birth, death and repetition. 
Someone has to bell this effin’ cat. 
Someone has to show a place from where they made the  BIG BANG. 
 Even a dim-wit can understand this .   
This calls the stupid bluff of the BIG BANG.
What preceded the effin' explosion?  .
In his book “God and the Astronomers” Robert Jastrow seconds creation .  Not that JastrowJI is the ultimate authority.  
The modern Big Bang cosmologists want to get the Universe out of nothing PHUKKAT MEIN .  It's like asking us to believe that nothing made everything out of nothing. They could not understand singularity which the Vedic seer did.  The Bindu of Sri Yantra depicts Singularity.
Varahamihira the great Astrologer and astronomer from wrote 4600 years ago,  in the opening of his Samhita, “ It has been said in Vedas that the first primeval thing was darkness, which is not identical with the black colour, but a kind of non-existence like the state of a sleeping person.”
Singularity existed before the big-bang. When you have a big bang which created the cosmos, you need to have a black hole singularity too. This is commonsense which Albert Einstein and party ignored despite being very proficient with Indian Vedas.  
Consciousness of time can be likened to a deep hypnosis which causes one to be in sympathy with the various frequencies and pulses of the physical universe. 
Our human brain is in reality none other than a biological space-time energy transducer.  As such, it creates not only space, but also time.  When scalar beams charge through hyperspace the flow of time gets redirected temporarily.   
These white historians are the same idiots who translated Ânid-avAtam (आनीदवातं  ) of verse 2 to be “He lived without breathing".    What do these dim-wits know of Prana or a scalar field without vibrations (avatam) ?   The white man must NOT try to interpret our priceless Vedas.
The whole world goes GA GA about Albert Einstein for this path breaking ORIGINAL ( sic !) theories –
--Energy and matter is interconvertible
--Space time fabric
--Space Time dilation
etc etc
Albert Einstein’s proficiency in Math was below par.  He was assisted in Math in his thesis.
Here is the beginning of the speech of Swami Vivekananada at Chicago on Sept 11, 1893
Sisters and Brothers of America,
It fills my heart with joy unspeakable to rise in response to the warm and cordial welcome which you have given us. I thank you in the name of the most ancient order of monks in the world; I thank you in the name of the mother of religions, and I thank you in the name of millions and millions of Hindu people of all classes and sects.

My thanks, also, to some of the speakers on this platform who, referring to the delegates from the Orient, have told you that these men from far-off nations may well claim the honor of bearing to different lands the idea of toleration. I am proud to belong to a religion which has taught the world both tolerance and universal acceptance. We believe not only in universal toleration, but we accept all religions as true.

I am proud to belong to a nation which has sheltered the persecuted and the refugees of all religions and all nations of the earth. I am proud to tell you that we have gathered in our bosom the purest remnant of the Israelites, who came to Southern India and took refuge with us in the very year in which their holy temple was shattered to pieces by Roman tyranny. CONTD ----   ------

Modern science says that this Universe is 13.7 billion years old. By weight, it is 4% of atoms, 23% of dark matter and 73% of dark energy.

This is in consonance with the  Na asat na sat concept of Vedas . describes zero state or total single black hole concept. From this state, the next stage of 'ambhas' ( cosmic waters ) is formed.
German Jew Rothschild got the Rig Veda translated in 1830, in Latin by German Jew Friedrich August Rosen. His translation of the first book of the Rigveda appeared posthumously in 1838. The remaining books remained unedited for another five decades, until Rothschild employee German  Max Muller did it in 1890-92.

The first complete translation was in English, made by Rothschild’s employee Horace Hayman Wilson, who published it in six volumes over the years 1850-88.  He is the same man who translated ( sic !) the works of the FAKE Kalidasa in English.

Albert Einstein said  "We have been all wrong.  What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses.  There is no matter." 

He has just quoted from 7000 year old Vedanta ( which he was proficient in ) which clearly stated Maya, the illusion often mistaken for reality.
Nobody has understood Hindusim after Adi Shankaracharya of 2000 BC.

The ADVAITA VEDANTA of Adi Shankaracharya tells us that the god of sanatana dharma cannot be picked by the 5 human senses. It is a morphogenetic consciousness field .  

In DVAITA VEDANTA we have the trinity of Brahma / Vishnu/ Shiva OR the creator – mediator- destroyer. Brahma is brahmAn personified on this template as creator .

Friday, August 29, 2014

Advanced Science of Ancient Hindus.

Scientific Miracles in Hindu Scriptures.
Vedas and Puranas, which were revealed second time 6,000 years ago centuries ago, mentioned facts only recently discovered or proven by scientists. 
1. Sphericity of Earth:
The existence of rather advanced concepts like the sphericity of Earth and the cause of seasons is quite clear in Vedic literature. For example, the Aitareya Brahmana (3.44) declares:
The Sun does never set nor rise. When people think the Sun is setting it is not so. For after having arrived at the end of the day it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making night to what is below and day to what is on the other sideHaving reached the end of the night, it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making day to what is below and night to what is on the other side. In fact, the Sun never sets. Shape of Earth is like an Oblate Spheroid. (Rig VedaXXX. IV.V)

‘Earth is flattened at the poles’ (Markandeya Purana 54.12)

"Sixty-four centuries before Isaac Newton, the Hindu Rig-Veda asserted that gravitation held the universe together. The Sanskrit speaking Aryans subscribed to the idea of a spherical earth in an era when the Greeks believed in a flat one. The Indians of the fifth century A.D. calculated the age of the earth as 4.3 billion years; scientists in 19th century England were convinced it was 100 million years."

2. Polar Days and Nights
For the period when the sun is north it is visible for six months at the north pole and invisible at the south, and vice versa. - (Ibid Sutra)

Modern Science says about this:
June 21, 1999: Later today, at 19:49 UT (3:49 p.m. EDT), Earth's north pole points more directly at the Sun than at any other time during the year. For polar bears and other denizens of the Arctic it will be noontime, the middle of a 6-month long day, as the Sun climbs to 23 1/2 degrees above the horizon.
June 21st marks the beginning of summer in the Northern Hemisphere and the beginning of winter in the Southern Hemisphere. In the North it's the longest day of the year. At mid-latitudes there is sunlight for over 16 hours. Above the Arctic Circle the sun doesn't set at all!

"He made this Earth fixed by different devices like hills and mountains in shape of pegs but it still rotates . Sun never sets; all parts of earth are not in Darkness." [RIG VEDA] 

3. The Movement of Earth:

"Earth rotates in two ways by the Will of Brahama, first it rotates on its axis secondly it revolves around sun. Days and Nights are distinguished when moves on its axis. Season change when it revolves around Sun". (Vishnu Puran)

4. Galaxies & Universe:

"There are suns in all directions, the night sky being full of them." (Rig Veda)

There are planets in all directions, but only visible in night sky (Rig Veda) 

Blue Sky is Nothing but scattered sunlight (Markandeya Purana 78.8)

The modern sceince says:
In the 1920s astronomers realised that our island universe, the Milky Way Galaxy, is not alone in space. Outside it are other galaxies, each containing thousands of millions of suns. One of these other galaxies is visible to the naked eye, as a faint fuzzy blob in the constellation of Andromeda. The Andromeda galaxy is similar in size and shape to the Milky Way and is our galaxy's nearest neighbour, 2 million light years (20000000000000000000000 km) away. Further away are other galaxies, too faint for the eye to see. With powerful telescopes, millions have been photographed. Remarkably, all the galaxies are fleeing from one another: the whole Universe is expanding. This is one of the key pieces of evidence that about 15000 million years ago, there was a beginning to the Universe, an immense explosion we call the Big Bang. The debris from the explosion is still flying apart. Earth is one of the cinders.

A galaxy is a giant assembly of many stars. We live on a planet which is in a group of 9 planets orbiting a star in one such assembly, a spiral galaxy we call the Milky Way (from the old Latin name Via Lactea). There are an estimated 50-100 billion galaxies in the Universe. Each galaxy has millions or billions of stars like our Sun, or bigger, smaller, newer, older, colder, hotter, exploding or imploding. It comprise of Millions of Planets like ours, or bigger, smaller, newer, older or hotter. 

The blue color of the sky is due to Rayleigh scattering. As light moves through the atmosphere, most of the longer wavelengths pass straight through. Little of the red, orange and yellow light is affected by the air.
However, much of the shorter wavelength light is absorbed by the gas molecules. The absorbed blue light is then radiated in different directions. It gets scattered all around the sky. Whichever direction you look, some of this scattered blue light reaches you. Since you see the blue light from everywhere overhead, the sky looks blue
As you look closer to the horizon, the sky appears much paler in color. To reach you, the scattered blue light must pass through more air. Some of it gets scattered away again in other directions. Less blue light reaches your eyes. The color of the sky near the horizon appears paler or white
Hinduism is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, to those of modern scientific cosmology. The Hindu literature is work of a Genius.
(Dr. Steinn Sigurdsson, Pennsylvania State University)

It looks like that the writers of Vedas and Puran came from the future to deliver knowledge. The works of the Ancient Arya Sages is mind blowing. There is no doubt that Purans and Vedas are word of God.
(Scott Sandford , Space Scientist, NASA)

How could Hindus (Aryas) have possibly known all this 6,000 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment which did not exist at that time? Such concepts were found only recently.
(Dr. Kevin Hurley of the University of California at Berkeley)

5. Mobility of Universe

Nothing in Brahmand is immovable (Sam Veda)


"Earth is divided in many plates as much as 14 of them in present Manavatara." (Brahmand Purana)

In the 1920s, Edwin Hubble used the 100" telescope (2.5 meters) at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California to detect variable stars in nebulae. He discovered that the stars he observed had the same characteristic variations in their brightness as a class of stars called Cepheid Variables. Earlier, astronomer Henrietta Levitt had shown there was a precise correlation between the periodic change in brightness of a Cepheid Variable and its luminosity. Hubble was able use this correlation to show that the nebulae containing the variable stars he observed were not within our own Galaxy; they were external galaxies far beyond the edge of our Milky Way.

6. Origin of Universe
Hindu concepts of Hiranyagarbha (golden womb) and Brahmanda (the first egg), are comparable to cosmic egg origin systems. The Bhagavata Purana, Brahmanda Purana, Vayu Purana among others contain references to the initial process of the origins of the universe as a cosmic egg. The twelve phase creation of the universe and the history of our Brahmanda is described in Srimad Bhagvatam.

The Hiranyagarbha Sukta announces: Hiranyagarbhah samavartatagre bhutasya jatah patireka asit, which means, Before creation existed the golden womb Hiranyagarbha, Lord of everything born. (Rig Veda 10.121.1)

The whole universe including sun, moon, planets, and galaxies was all inside the egg, and the egg was surrounded by ten qualities from outside. (Vayu Purana 4.74-75)

Before creation, it was only the braham that was everywhere. There was no day, night or sky. First I created the waters. And in the waters I sowed the seeds of brahmanda. the great egg. From this seed there developed a egg which began to float on the waters. This egg is known as Brahamand (Universe)

Modern Science says about it:
This is the structure of the Universe created by scientists after a research of many years. If we take a look at the COBE results, we notice the uneven pattern in the radiation stemming from the decoupling of matter and radiation when the Universe was a mere 300,000 years old. The blue and magenta patterns represent areas that were slightly cooler and slightly warmer than average. These variations are at a level of about 1:100,000, but they must have been enough to seed the structures we see today.

Finally we came to conclusion that Universe is shaped like a egg but this information was already present in Hindu Literature.
(Alan Kogut, NASA)

7. Ozone Layer
Protection of Earth

After the formation of the earth planet, Brahama created atmosphere in group of seven , from that formation oceans began to exist, and the first form of life appeared on the earth planet. Atmosphere was created as protective skin of earth (Shrimad Bhagwatam)

"Amazing isnt it Vedas and Puaran are divine source of knowledge said Dr. Donald Mitchell of the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory. It is hard to believe that these facts were already mentioned in hindu books thousands of years back, in the time when Human didn't knew much about Astronomy.

The Vishnu Purana gives a quite an accurate description of tides: 
"In all the oceans the water remains at all times the same in quantity and never increases or diminishes; but like the water in a cauldron, which in consequence of its combination with heat, expands, so the waters of the ocean swell with the increase of the Moon. The waters, although really neither more nor less, dilate or contract as the Moon increases or wanes in the light and dark fortnights"..

8. About Creation of Moon

"In the initial stage of creation of Universe some creation material slipped from the hands of Brahma and collided with earth resulting in the formation of Moon". (Brahmand Purana)

Modern Science says
At the time Earth formed 4.5 billion years ago, other smaller planetary bodies were also growing. One of these hit earth late in Earth's growth process, blowing out rocky debris. A fraction of that debris went into orbit 

Hare Rama Hare Rama Ram Ram Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Kishna Krishna Hare Hare

Wednesday, April 2, 2014

Misquoted Verses Of Hindu Scriptures for Meat Eating #decoding #hinduism

Misquoted Verses Of Hindu Scriptures for Meat Eating

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It is sad that these are the translated version of Foreign writers who do not know how sentence is made
in sanskrit and they are translated Our scriptures without having knowledge and understanding of Sanskrit.
This is their cunningness and I have seen that many of Indian scholars also use these translations in their sites.
These translators are Griffith, wilson etc. In which Griffth is most famous on internet.

For better understanding I am explaining each and every mantra mentioned by you here with comparison with Griffth Translation and actual translation:

Query: “Indra says theat, because, Indra was in desperate condition, therefore he cooked intestines of a dog.

[Rig Vda book 4: hymn 18 mantra or verse 13]

Answer : First thing is that there is nothing like Book, Hymn or verse.
For Rig Ved Foreign Translators used Book for Mandal, Hymn for Sukta and Verse for Mantra.
From this you can understand the condition what they have made with their translation.

Mantra in Sanskrit:

अवर्त्या शुन आन्त्राणि पेचे न देवेषु विविदे मर्डितारम |
अपश्यं जायाम अमहीयमानाम अधा मे शयेनो मध्व आ जभार ||

avartyā śuna āntrāṇi pece na deveṣu vivide marḍitāram |
apaśyaṃ jāyām amahīyamānām adhā me śyeno madhv ā jabhāra ||

Rigved Mandal 4, Sukta 18, Mantra 13

Griffth Translation: In deep distress I cooked a dog's intestines. Among the Gods I found not one to comfort.
My consort I beheld in degradation. The Falcon then brought me the pleasant Soma.

Actual Translation:
word by Word:

avartya means to be free from cycle of life and Death
suna-->> This is the real conspirator, one meaning of suna is Dog but from Rigved 7.104.22 it is clear that suna means
to be happy. likely dog is used mainly as svaan not suna.
āntrāṇi means mode of Gyan or Knowledge
pece means to digest or mature. This is taken as cooked by griffth but it is to digest. This is same as
your teacher says to you digest your syllabus.
deveṣu means indriya i.e senses.
marḍitāram means the one that gives happines.
na Vivede means not found.
jayam means nature or prakriti
amahiyamanam means not equal to
apaśyaṃ means to see
syeno means Ishwar in form of Gyan or knowledge.
me means me
madhu means honey or very sweet
a jabhara means to give

So the actual translation of whole Mantra is:
Hrishi is saying I digest or mature all modes of knowledge of God to become happy and free from cycle of life and death.
In between my senses I do not found anyone to provide happiness or pleasure.
I do not saw Prakriti as same as God. Ishwar in the form of Knowledge gives me sweetest BrahmGyan.

Query: “Agni is a Vedic God and is described as fed on Ox and Cow”

[Rig Vda book 10: hymn 16 mantra or verse 7]

Mantra in Sanskrit:

अग्नेर्वर्म परि गोभिर्व्ययस्व सं परोर्णुष्व पीवसामेदसा च |
नेत तवा धर्ष्णुर्हरसा जर्ह्र्षाणो दध्र्ग्विधक्ष्यन पर्यङखयाते ||
aghnervarma pari ghobhirvyayasva saṃ prorṇuṣva pīvasāmedasā ca |
net tvā dhṛṣṇurharasā jarhṛṣāṇo dadhṛghvidhakṣyan paryaṅkhayāte ||

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 7

Griffth Translation: Shield thee with flesh against the flames of Agni, encompass thee about with fat and marrow,
So will the Bold One, eager to attack thee with fierce glow fail to girdle and consume thee.

Actual Translation:
aghne ghobhi means from the auspicious voice of knowledgeable person
varma means defensible shield, cloths etc
pari vyayasva to wear.
pivasamedasa ca means nutrient and loving body layer
saṃ prorṇuṣva means to cover properly
dhṛṣṇu means the fire created by rubbing, fire like Guru
jarhṛṣāṇo means to become very happy
dadhṛgh means to become very hard
vidhakṣyan means to burn opposite sin
net tva paryaṅkhayāte means do not cover you, do not punish you.

So the actual translation of whole Mantra is:
You wear defencable sheild, cloths etc from the auspicious voice of knowledgeble person or Guru and cover properly yourself
with nutrient and loving body layer. So that the fire created by rubbing like Guru to be very happy or to be very hard will
not punish you and burn your opposite sins.

Query: “A ritual enveloping dead body with Cow’s flesh before putting it on fire”.

[Rig Vda book 10: hymn 16 mantra or verse 7-10]

Mantra in Sanskrit:

अग्नेर्वर्म परि गोभिर्व्ययस्व सं परोर्णुष्व पीवसामेदसा च |
नेत तवा धर्ष्णुर्हरसा जर्ह्र्षाणो दध्र्ग्विधक्ष्यन पर्यङखयाते ||

aghnervarma pari ghobhirvyayasva saṃ prorṇuṣva pīvasāmedasā ca |
net tvā dhṛṣṇurharasā jarhṛṣāṇo dadhṛghvidhakṣyan paryaṅkhayāte ||

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 7

इममग्ने चमसं मा वि जिह्वरः परियो देवानामुतसोम्यानाम |
एष यश्चमसो देवपानस्तस्मिन देवा अम्र्तामादयन्ते ||

imamaghne camasaṃ mā vi jihvaraḥ priyo devānāmutasomyānām |
eṣa yaścamaso devapānastasmin devā amṛtāmādayante ||

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 8

करव्यादमग्निं पर हिणोमि दूरं यमराज्ञो गछतुरिप्रवाहः |
इहैवायमितरो जातवेदा देवेभ्यो हव्यंवहतु परजानन ||

kravyādamaghniṃ pra hiṇomi dūraṃ yamarājño ghachaturipravāhaḥ |
ihaivāyamitaro jātavedā devebhyo havyaṃvahatu prajānan ||

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 9

यो अग्निः करव्यात परविवेश वो गर्हमिमं पश्यन्नितरंजातवेदसम |
तं हरामि पित्र्यज्ञाय देवं स घर्ममिन्वात परमे सधस्थे ||

yo aghniḥ kravyāt praviveśa vo ghṛhamimaṃ paśyannitaraṃjātavedasam |
taṃ harāmi pitṛyajñāya devaṃ sa gharmaminvāt parame sadhasthe ||

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 10

Griffith Translation:

Shield thee with flesh against the flames of Agni, encompass thee about with fat and marrow,
So will the Bold One, eager to attack thee with fierce glow fail to girdle and consume thee.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 7

Forbear, O Agni, to upset this ladle: the Gods and they who merit Soma love it.
This ladle, this which serves the Gods to drink from, in this the Immortal Deities rejoice them.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 8

1 send afar flesh eating Agni, bearing off stains may he depart to Yama's subjects.
But let this other Jatavedas carry oblation to the Gods, for he is skilful.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 9

I choose as God for Father-worship Agni, flesh-eater, who hath past within your dwelling,
While looking on this other Jatavedas. Let him light flames in the supreme assembly.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 10

Now not giving word by word Translation I am giving you full translation of these Mantras.

You wear defensible shield, cloths etc from the auspicious voice of knowledgeable person or Guru and cover properly yourself with nutrient and loving body layer. So that the fire created by rubbing like Guru to be very happy or to be very hard will not punish you and burn your opposite sins.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 7

Hey Tejasvin (Agni)! You do not let make these favored people wicked in every way or direction. He
is loving to the one who give knowledge and Money and parents of disciple like son.all the wise persons and old man are happy on the one who is calm like receptacle humble person, he is preserver of wise persons and drink nectar of knowledge.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 8

From The system of Guru-Disciple explained above, May I able to eliminate the meat eaters, dangerous
wild animals and even death from myself and wicked persons should go to man of law savior King.
and from him other innocent people, knowledgeable person will get money and knowledge and in here in ashram provide knowledge, money and food etc. the Guru provide food of knowledge to disciples

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 9

Cruel meat eater who are like anguish giver as Agni should not come to my home in the dress of wise person. Householders should go to BrahamGyani person and not go to person who feed on money.
because they are like wolf and fire of cemetery or Shamshyan.

Rigved Mandal 10, Sukta 16 Mantra 10

Query : “Indra eats bulls”

[Rig Vda book 10: hymn 85 mantra or verse 13]

Mantra in Sanskrit:

सूर्याया वहतुः परागात सविता यमवास्र्जत |
अघासुहन्यन्ते गावो.अर्जुन्योः पर्युह्यते ||

sūryāyā vahatuḥ prāghāt savitā yamavāsṛjat |
aghāsuhanyante ghāvo.arjunyoḥ paryuhyate ||

RigVed Mandal 10: Sukta 85 mantra 13

Griffith Translation : The bridal pomp of Surya, which Savitar started, moved along.
In Magha days are oxen slain, in Arjuris they wed the bride.


Devta of this mantra 10/85/13 is “SURYA VIVAHA” So, this mantra relates to marriage. Mantra asks as to why the marriage is performed .Though, the marriage is performed for maintaining number of good qualities but in this mantra, it is stated that marriage is performed to obtain sons.

So, how why and under whose influence/pressure Mr. D. N. Jha has stated to slaughter the cow on the pious occasion of marriage is not understood. Mr. D. N. Jha’s interpretation of Rigveda Mantra 10/86/14 underlines practice of eating beef, which is absolutely wrong according to Vedas. Devta of this Sukta is ‘VARUNN’ the above mantra relates to the knowledge of celestial bodies/comprising of planets, stars etc.

So it has no concern with eating beef or any non-vegetarian food.

Meaning of above mantra :



The mantra states that in winter, the rays of sun get weakened and then get strong again in spring.
The word used for sun-rays in ‘Go’ which also means cow and hence the mantra can also be translated by
making ‘cow’ and not ‘sun-rays’ as the subject. The word used for ‘weakened’ is ‘Hanyate’ which can also
mean killing. But if that be so, why would the mantra go further and state in next line (which is deliberate
ly not translated) that in spring, they start regaining their original form. How can a cow killed in
winter regain its health in spring? This amply proves how ignorant and biased communists malign Vedas.

Query: “Indra says, “They have cooked for me fifteen bulls and twenty cows, so that I may eat the fats as well. Both sides of my belly are full.”

[Rig Vda book 10: hymn 86 mantra or verse 7]

Sanskrit Mantra:

उवे अम्ब सुलाभिके यथेवाङग भविष्यति |
भसन मे अम्बसक्थि मे शिरो मे वीव हर्ष्यति विश्वस्मादिन्द्र उत्तरः ||

uve amba sulābhike yathevāṅgha bhaviṣyati |
bhasan me ambasakthi me śiro me vīva hṛṣyati viśvasmādindra uttaraḥ ||

Rigved Mandal 10 Sukta 86 mantra 7

Griffith Translation:

Mother whose love is quickly wibn, I say what verily will be.
My,breast, O Mother, and my head and both my hips seem quivering. Supreme is Indra over all.

Now you can see
This is totally misquoted and self made verse even Griffith dont say to to kill cow in this Mantra. So
I am not explaining this Mantra.


“He who wishes, “May as son born to me, who will e a reputed scholar, attend assemblies, speak words that one likes to hear, be versed in all the Vedas and attain full longevity” Should have rice cooked with beef that of a young mature bull and with his wife eat it mixed with ghee. Then they will be able to produce such a son.

[Brahadaranyaka Upanishad Ch 6 Sec 4 Mantar 18]


Let us take Mansodanam first. There are 4 more verses just before this verse that recommend eating particular edibles with rice for having a child with Vedic wisdom of different types. The other edibles are: Ksheerodanam (Milk with rice), Dadhyodanam (Yogurt with rice), Water with rice and Tila (a pulse) with rice for experts in other Vedas. Thus it is ONLY for mastery of Atharvaveda that Mansodanam or meat with rice is recommended. This itself shows that the particular reference is an anomaly.

In reality, the right word is Mashodanam and NOT Mansodanam. Masha means a kind of pulse. Hence there is nothing fleshy about it. In fact, for pregnant women, meat is completely prohibited as per Ayurveda. Refer Sushruta Samhita. There is also a verse in Sushrut Samhita that recommends Masha for husband and wife for a good son. Thus it is obvious that Brihadaranyaka has also explained the same concept as elucidated in Sushruta Samhita. There is no reason why the two texts would differ in Masha and Mansa.
Even if someone asserts that it is not Masha but Mansa, still Mansa means pulp and not necessarily meat. There are ample usages of Mansa as pulp in ancient texts. Thus Amramansam means pulp of mango. Khajuramansam means pulp of date. Refer Charak Samhita for such examples. Taittriya Samhita 2.32.8 uses Mansa for curd, honey and corn.

The fact is that Uksha refers to a medicinal herb, also known as Soma. Even someone like Monier Williams in his Sanskrit-English Dictionary states the same.

Vashaa refers to controlling powers of God and not a barren cow. If Vasha is used to mean a barren cow, then many Vedic verses will make no sense.

For example, Atharvaveda 10.10.4 uses Sahasradhara or Thousand flows in relation with Vasha. How can a barren cow be compared with Sahasradhara used to denote ample food, milk and water.
Atharvaveda 10.190 states that Vashi means controlling power of God and is recited twice daily in Vedic Sandhya.

In other verses, Vashaa is used also as productive land or a good wife with children (Atharvaveda 20.103.15) or a medicinal herb. Monier Williams also uses the word to mean a herb in his dictionary.
Uksha means a herb or Soma, even as per Monier Williams Dictionary. The same dictionary also lists Rishabh (from which Arshabh is derived) to mean a kind of medicinal plant (Carpopogan pruriens). Charak Samhita 1.4-13 lists Rishabh as a medicinal plant. Same is mentioned in Sushrut Samhita 38 and Bhavaprakash Purna Khanda.

Further both Arshabh (Rishabh) and Uksha mean bull and none means ‘calf’. So why were synonyms used to mention the same thing in the shloka from Brihadaranyak. This is like saying, one should eat either curd or yogurt! Thus, obviously the two words mean two different things. And considering that all the other verses mention herbs and pulses, these words also mean the same

The word Mansodan is misquoted its Manshodhan which means purify Mind.
Uksha means Herb of Somaras. Ox is called Vrishabh in sanskrit not Uksha.
The quote simply means Rice mixed with herbs purify our mind.

I am giving Pictorial proof here...

Query : “"The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad, even if he does it day after day, for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater."

[Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30]

Answer: Actual Verse

The eater who daily even devours those destined to be his food, commits no sin; for the creator himself created both the eaters and those who are to be eaten (for those special purposes).

We know one living entity is dependent on another. This vesre is for all living entity that eats other animals for living not for human.

That is what we can see and that is what Vedas tell us jive jivese Bhojnam now we could easily use this as a licence to kill and enjoy and contrast this with thou shall not kill in the bible and yet we see the opposite, why, because we follow the higher doctrine of ahimsa.

What I find so sad of muslims is that they wish peace in their greating to one another yet they lack in their action

Query: "Eating meat is right for the sacrifice; this is traditionally known as a rule of the gods."

[Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 31]

Answer: You conveniently omitted full verse, here it is

'The consumption of meat is prohibited for yajnas,' that is declared to be a rule made by the Gods; but to persist (in using it) on occasions is said to be a proceeding worthy of Rakshasas.

And then if we read further which our friend deliberately remains ignorant about for obvious reasons, makes it abundantly clear what we human should not eat.

Now see what Manusmiriti actually says about Eating meat:

Chapter 5

48. Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and injury to sentient beings is detrimental to (the attainment of) heavenly bliss; let him therefore shun (the use of) meat.

49. Having well considered the (disgusting) origin of flesh and the (cruelty of) fettering and slaying corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh.

50. He who, disregarding the rule (given above), does not eat meat like a Pisaka, becomes dear to men, and will not be tormented by diseases.

51. He who permits (the slaughter of an animal), he who cuts it up, he who kills it, he who buys or sells (meat), he who cooks it, he who serves it up, and he who eats it, (must all be considered as) the slayers (of the animal).

52. There is no greater sinner than that (man) who, though not worshipping the gods or the manes, seeks to increase (the bulk of) his own flesh by the flesh of other (beings).

Moreover, you would come accross some reference from adulterated Manusmriti, containing Violence against animals These are additional shlokas are either from adulterated Manu Smriti or misinterpreted by twisting of words. I recommend them to read Manu Smriti by Dr Surendra Kumar.

Query: "God himself created sacrificial animals for sacrifice... therefore killing in a sacrifice is not killing."

[Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 39-40]

Answer: Correct verse is

Svayambhu (the Self-existent) himself created beasts for the sake of sacrifices; sacrifices (have been instituted) for the good of this whole (world); hence the slaughtering (of beasts) for sacrifices is not slaughtering (in the ordinary sense of the word).

point to be look at in this verse is that sacrifice is not for eating. Manu is talinkg about Beasts which become threat to mankind i.e man eater Tiger, lion etc.

Killing them with the purpose of saving life is not slaughtering but the sacrifice.

Query : Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Pitris (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied. Paragraph reads as follows:

"Yudhishthira said, "O thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitiris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! What Havi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time? What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?"

"Bhishma said, "Listen to me, O Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each. With sesame seeds and rice and barely and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, O king, remain gratified for the period of a month. With fishes offered at Shraddhas, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With the mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remaingratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months, With the meat of the bufffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said , lasts for a full year.

Payasa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years. The flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible. The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible. So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.

[Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88]

Answer: this query made me laugh and sad at innocence of Hindus no where in this chapter says about
beef but it is saying about cows in donation and to give curd, cow milk and grains to eat.

I am giving whole chapter here in Sanskrit Translated to Hindi.


"You will be astonished if I tell you that, according to the old ceremonials, he is not a good Hindu who does not eat beef. On certain occasions he must sacrifice a bull and eat it." [The complete works of Swami Vivekananda, Volume 3, Pg 536]

In the same volume he says,

"There was a time in this very India when, without eating beef, no Brahmin could remain a Brahmin;"

[The complete works of Swami Vivekananda, Volume 3, Pg 174]


Many people quote those, who may be good though one subject (like Yoga) but may not have credible understanding of the Vedas. These quotations are widely used to prove that Vedas prescribe barbaric things like Violence against animals and women, etc but the users of these quotations are unable to provide real proofs (directly from the Vedas and Vedic Granth). Also, we are not sure that these people have really made such comments or not

You can quote Swami Vivekananda and other books to prove that eating beef
is part of the Hindus daily life in the past. However, you have not
considered the commentories written by prophets (empowered living beings
who are sent by God). Only the commentaries on Vedas, Puranas, upanishads,
etc written by prophets are valid. The problem is that most people quote
translation of verses done by famous people such as Swami Vivekananda but
they ignore the translation done by prophets listed below:

Adi Shankara (789-821) (also known as “Shankaracharya”), or Shankara

Bhagavatpaada: Founder of Advaita school of vedanta (incarnation of Lord

Shrimad Ramanujacharya: Wrote Sribhashya, commentary on Brahma Sutras. He
also established Vishistadvaita Siddhanta (incarnation of AdisEsha).

Shrimad Madhvacharya: Founder of the Dvaita school of vedanta (incarnation
of Vayu deva).

Shrimad Nimbarkacharya: Founder of Dvaitadvaita school of
vedanta (incarnation of Sudarshana Chakra of Lord Vishnu).

Shrimad Vallbhacharya: Founder of Shuddhadvaita school of vedanta and
established (incarnation of Agni deva).

These prophets are called prophets because if you read their history it is given that God ordained them to *incarnate* on the earth for uplifting us and enlightening on topics that people were confused. There are many instances in which demigods or absolute God have incarnated on earth and summarized the Hindu religion. You should read their commentaries first. I or you can write commentaries on Vedas, Puranas but it is not authorized one.

There are many great people who are subject to illusions and they have done small mistakes. Take for eg: Gandhiji. He is called mahatma but there are many controversies connected to it which many people refuse to be accept as true. I will not go into detail whether those allegations are true or not. When a sanskrit word ‘go’ is used in Sanskrit it has many meaning. It also has meaning called earth, river, etc. Also the word ‘offering’ doesn’t mean throwing it into fire. That is why we have depend less on translations done by non-prophets.

Some translators have fallen prey to wrong interpretation of the language. A typical example of foul play by some hell-bent on justifying their obsession with beef in ancient texts, is to translate Mansa as ‘meat’. In reality, ‘Mansa’ is a generic word used to denote pulp. Meat is called ‘Mansa’ because it is pulpy. So mere presence of ‘Mansa’ does not mean it refers to meat.