Sunday, January 19, 2014

330 million Gods? The Vedas refer to not millions of deities but 33 supreme deities.

33 CRORE GODS?

A popular but unfounded belief has been spread that Hindus have 33 crore gods. It is a misunderstanding of the Vedic concept of the State, and hence a misinterpretation of the word koti. 

33 divinities are mentioned in the Yajur-veda, Atharva-veda, Satapatha-brahmana, and in several other Vedic and later texts. The number thirty-three occurs with reference to divinities in the Parsi scriptures of Avesta as well.The expression trayastrimsa deva is found in the list of classes of gods in Sanskrit Buddhist texts like the Divyavadana and Suvarnaprabhasa-sutra.

The word koti in 'trayastrimsati koti' does not mean the number '33 crore' or '330 million'. Here koti means 'supreme', pre-eminent, excellent, that is, the 33 'supreme' divinities.


The word koti has the same meaning as uchha koti.

It was a problem even in AD 725 when Subhakarasimha and his Chinese colleague I-hsing translated the Mahavairocana-sutra into Chinese. They rendered the compound sapta-koti-buddha as shichi (sapta) kotei (koti) butsu (buddha) in which they did not translate the word koti that transliterated its pronunciation as kotei. The Buddhas were not 'seven crore', but only 'Seven Supreme Buddhas': six predecessors and the historic Buddha. Tibetan masters who translated Sanskrit texts into Tibetan, rendered koti byrnam which means 'class, kind, category'.

In the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, chapter 3, Yājñavalkya has said that in reality there are only 33 gods and goddesses. Of these 8 are Vasus, 11 Rudras, 12 Adityas, and Indra and Prajapati.

33 koti gods = 8 Vasus + 11 Rudras + 12 Adityas + 2 Heaven and Earth ( 8+ 11 + 12 + 2 = 33).

33 KOTI GODS

(The following is a small part of conversation between Śākalya and Sage Yājñavalkya.

There were eight people who put questions to Sage Yājñavalkya at King Janaka's court. Śākalya was the eight. Śākalya dies, in the very audience, due to an incident that took place on account of too much meaningless querying. Why? You will have to go through the whole incident ;) Believe us, its amazing!

It has been documented in Brihadaranyaka Upanishad - Chapter 3.)


Śākalya         : "How many gods are there?"
Yājñavalkya  : "Three hundred and three." Then he says, "Three thousand and three."

Śākalya         : "Is this the answer that you give me to my question, how many gods     are there? Three thousand and three; three hundred and three! Have you no other answer to this question?"
Yājñavalkya  : There are thirty-three gods.

Śākalya         : "All right!" (not satisfied with answer) ...Tell me again properly; how many gods are there?"
Yājñavalkya   : "Six are there."

Śākalya         : "How many gods are there. Tell me again. Think properly."
Yājñavalkya   : "Only three gods are there."

Śākalya         : "How many gods are there? Tell again.
Yājñavalkya   : "Two gods are there."

Śākalya         :  "Tell again; how many gods are there?"
Yājñavalkya   :  "One and a half gods"

(Then he was very much upset) 

Śākalya         :  "What is this you say, one and a half gods. Tell again properly; how many gods are there?"
Yājñavalkya  :  "One god is there,"

Śākalya         : "All these numbers that you have mentioned – three thousand and three, three hundred and  three – what are these gods? Give the names of these gods, the deities."
Yājñavalkya  :   "All these three thousand and all that I mentioned – they are not really gods. They are only   manifestations of the thirty-three. The thirty-three are the principal manifestations, and others are only their glories, radiances, manifestations, magnificences or forces, energies,  powers."

Śākalya         : "But what are these thirty-three?"
Yājñavalkya   : "The thirty-three gods are eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ādityas, then Indra and Prajāpati – these make thirty-three gods."

Śākalya         : "What are these Vasus which are eight in number?"
Yājñavalkya   : "Fire is one deity; earth is one deity; air is another; the atmosphere is one deity; the sun is one deity; the heaven is one deity; moon is one deity; the stars are one deity. These constitute eight groups"

Śākalya         : "Why do you call them Vasus?"
Yājñavalkya   : "Everything is deposited as it were in these constituent principles. Therefore, they are called Vasus."

Śākalya         : "Who are the Rudras?"
Yājñavalkya  : "The ten senses and the mind make eleven. These are the Rudras."
        
Śākalya         : "What are the twelve Ādityas, the suns?"
Yājñavalkya   : "They are twelve forces of the sun, takes away the vitality of people."

Śākalya         : "Who is Indra? Who is Prajāpati?"
Yājñavalkya   : "The rain cloud can be called Indra. Sacrifice can be called Prajāpati."

Śākalya         : "What do you mean by rain cloud?"
Yājñavalkya   : "By rain cloud I do not actually mean the cloud, but the lightning which is the embodiment of energy."

(Note: Ancient scriptures are filled with many astonishing events and stories. At Revival of True India  we are planning to portray them in a very beautiful, interesting and understandable way. Do stay in touch.)

THE NON-DUAL ONE

The essence of all scriptures:

Sanskrit     :  "Ekam evadvitiyam"
Translation:  "He is One only without a second."

God is one, but he has many names and forms. Since God is omnipresent, omnipresent and omniscient, should not He be present everywhere and in all the existence?

Just like electricity flowing in our homes - it becomes cool air flowing through the AC, becomes light glowing in the bulbs, becomes heat in the kitchen, becomes music through the speakers, dances as pixels on our computer screen - one energy is blissfully dancing through this creation ; 'The Universal Law' or 'The Cosmic Celebration' whatever one can call.

God is the substratum of this existence. Everything is inside God, because there is no outside at all!

God is one, yet He is many - this is the highest secret, they say, which needs to be experienced and lived as it cannot be understood!

swami-krishnananda
http://www.namami.org

‘Mother Teresa’ No Saint, Glorified Suffering,Media Creation

Mother Teresa’s Mission was to convert.  people of other faith to Christianity, making use of the economic backwardness and poor health of the People.
Note Teresa’s concentration on the North Eastern parts of India and her popular Office is in Kolkata with easy access to the North east of India.

she used to ill-treat the patients , had tantrums thrown in private but in Public she was the personification of Sobriety and ,Piety and concern for the sufferings of the Poor while she glorified ‘Suffering’ in private.
This has been confirmed by a Study by a Canadian Group.
Also it is worth remembering how she was ‘beatified’ by The Vatican even when thee were murmurs against it.
I have always looked down on ‘beatifying’ people by The Church!’
How an Institution which earmarks billions of Dollars for religious Conversion, goes about the task of converting people and setting targets for Conversion can ‘beatify’ if not as an incentive for future people to convert more.
Please read my post on the spending of Money by the Vatican.
Now Read on.
Mother Teresa
Mother Teresa
A study conducted by Canadian researchers has called Mother Teresa ”anything but a saint”, a creation of an orchestrated and effective media campaign who was generous with her prayers but miserly with her foundation’s millions when it came to humanity’s suffering.
The controversial study, to be published this month in the journal of studies in religion/sciences called Religieuses, says that Teresa — known across the world as the apostle of the dying and the downtrodden — actually felt it was beautiful to see the poor suffer.
According to the study, the Vatican overlooked the crucial human side of Teresa — her dubious way of caring for the sick by glorifying their suffering instead of relieving it.
Instead, the Vatican went ahead with her beatification followed by canonization “to revitalize the Church and inspire the faithful especially at a time when churches are empty and the Roman authority is in decline”.
Researchers Serge Larivee and Genevieve Chenard from the University of Montreal‘s department of psychoeducation, and Carole Senechal of the University of Ottawa’s faculty of education, analysed published writings about Mother Teresa and concluded that her hallowed image, “which does not stand up to analysis of the facts, was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media campaign”.
According to Larivee, facts debunk Teresa’s myth. He says that the Vatican, before deciding on Teresa’s beatification, did not take into account “her rather dubious way of caring for the sick, her questionable political contacts, her suspicious management of the enormous sums of money she received, and her overly dogmatic views regarding … abortion, contraception, and divorce.”
At the time of her death, Teresa had 517 missions or “homes for the dying” as described by doctors visiting several of these establishments in Kolkata. They welcomed the poor and sick in more than 100 countries. Two-thirds of the people coming to these missions hoped to a find a doctor to treat them, while the other third lay dying without receiving apt care.
Related:
If a Religion is strong in its fundamentals , it does not need money to propagate it.
One of my reader friends in a comment stated that God’s  words  needs to be propagated
I disagree.God , if He needs propagation, He is no God.
Religion’s strength lies  not in numbers but in the solace offered to Man.
Fixing targets for conversion and calling ‘Age of Asia’ is anathema to Religion.
While some religions resort to sword some resort to bribing.
Story:
This report is released by the Ministry of Home AffairsGOI, & gives details
of Contribution received by the NGO’s under the Foreign Contribution
Regulation Act 1976:-
1 crore (100,00,000) = 10 million (10,000,000)
1. Highest receivers of Foreign Contribution state-wise:
TAMIL NADU — Rs 2244 crores
DELHI — Rs 2186 crores
ANDHRA PRADESH — Rs 1,211 crores
2. Highest receivers of Foreign Contribution city-wise:
CHENNAI — Rs 928 crores
MUMBAI — Rs 891 crores
RANCHI — Rs 653 crores
3. Largest Donors:
USA — Rs 2971 crores
GERMANY — Rs 1650 crores
UK — Rs 1425 crores
4. List of foreign Donors topped by:
MISEREOR POSTFECH, GERMANY — Rs 1243 crores
WORLD VISION INTERNATIONAL, USA — Rs 469 crores
FUNDACION VICENTE FERRER, SPAIN — Rs 399 crores
5. The Highest Contribution received by:
RANCHI JESUITS RANCHI JHARKHAND — Rs 621 crores
SONTHOME TRUST OF KALYAN NEAR MUMBAI — Rs 333 crores
SOVERGEIN ORDER OF MALTA DELHI — Rs 301 crores
To know more about the amounts received by the NGOs for Evangelisation
in India, read the FCRA Report 2006-07, Ministry of Home Affairs, GOI:


VATICAN DOES NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT PEDOPHILIA. 29 Million Children Abused?


If the information provided is correct,it is over due that the Church understood that corrective action needs to be taken immediately, both in the interests of the Church and the Society it serves.
Religion, to be useful to Mankind, must understand the limitations of Human Nature and try to elevate human beings taking into account such limitations.
Sex is a basic instinct.It can not be suppressed.It csn be regulated.
Normal sexual instinct when thwarted will always result in perverse and abnormal behavior.
Hinduism understands these facts and does not proscribe sexual activity but exhorts people to be moderate in enjoyment of  objects of senses, be it Food,Sex.
It does not prohibit marriage nor does it lay down rules that are very difficult to follow.
It provides various systems to suit people of different nature.
The main goal is to Realize Self or reach God as one inclines.
After all Religion is meant for Man.
Time that religions are less formal to be of any use to man.
If not the religion shall  become extinct and leave the followers in a vacuum.
And a tool of effective Social Control will be lost.
Story:
According to Psychology Today and related research, more than 29 million catholics have been abused by priests and members of catholic orders.  The sheer scale of the horrors perpetrated by the catholic clergy worldwide and the dawning reality upon catholics that the church had actively sought to deny victims redress and protection, has brought universal disgrace to it.
Related:
The sexual crimes committed against children and adolescents by Catholic priest have figured prominently in the media over the past decade, and rocked the Catholic Church the world over. The “sins of the fathers” have been more than matched by the sins of the church hierarchy which showed more concern for the protection of the abusive priests than for the prevention of future violations or for the suffering caused to the victims.
There are a lot more myths than facts bantered around about clergy sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. Here are 6 important points that you should know if you are interested in this topic.
NUN SELLING BABIES FOR PROFIT-

Ancient Maps India ,Ramayana ,Mahabharata


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India Map sixth century BC
Ancient India during sixth century BC
Now that India is giving birth to its twenty-ninth State, Telengana,it is worth remembering that ancient India had fifty-six kingdoms.
Some of them are quite large and were Empires, some small like the Chera Kingdom in Tamil Nadu.
It is interesting to note that these small kingdoms were as prosperous if not more than the large kingdoms’ say in the period of Ramayana,Mahabharata.
The Tamil Chera King, Perunchotru Udiyan Cheralathan fed  both the armies of the Epic battle of Mahabharata.
For more details on this  read my post on this,
He used to liaise with both the warring groups, such was the respect he commanded and so was his states prosperity.
Even During Ramayana period the prosperity of the smaller states were in evidence.
What i have gleaned from these and other historical facts, in India, Austrian Empire, i that a State is prosperous if the Government is good and there are development activities.
The academic discussion that large Sates have more resources at their disposal, smaller easy to administer …are mere arm-chair discussions.
i was curious to find how ancient Map of India looked like.
Here are some Maps of ancient India from the Ramayana, Mahabharata days.
Ancient Map of India during Ramayana
India during The Ramayana period.
Kingdoms of India
Indian Kingdoms.
Ancient Kingdoms of India,

English: Author: JIJITH NR This image shows the locations places mentioned in Mahabharata and Ramayana. Some of the places retained their name during the period of Buddha and some even to the current times. Legend: yellow: kingdoms; blue: rivers; green: forests; brown: mountains; red: places (cities, towns, villages, mountain peaks, etc.)
India 100 BC
Indo Greeks in 100 BC.

Bharatvarsha, India Timeline.
  • . prehistoric
    Human habitation of India.
  • c. 5000 BCE – c. 1900 BCE
    The Indus Valley (or Harappan) Civilization.
  • c. 4000 BCE
    Indian village of Balathal inhabited.
  • c. 3000 BCE – c. 2600 BCE
    The rise of the great Indian cities of Mohenjo Daro and Harappa.
  • 2000 BCE
    Pepper is widely used in Indian cooking.
  • c. 1700 BCE – c. 1500 BCE
    Decline of the Harappan Culture in India.
  • c. 1700 BCE – 1100 BCE
    The Rig Veda written, mentioning the god Rudra (Shiva) for the first time.
  • c. 1700 BCE – 150 BCE
    The Vedic Period in India.
  • 1500 BCE
    The Indus Valley is invaded by Aryans - nomadic northerners from central Asia.
  • c. 1000 BCE
    The Aryans expand into the Ganges valley inIndia.
  • c. 700 BCE
    Indian scholars codify and reinterpret Aryanbeliefs to create the Upanishads texts forming the basis of Hinduism.
  • c. 700 BCE
    India is divided into 16 Aryan states or kingdoms.
  • c. 600 BCE
    Charaka and Sushruta found two schools of Ayurveda.
  • 599 BCE – 527 BCE
    Life of Indian philosopher Vardhamana, founder of Jainism.
  • 530 BCE
    Persia conquers the Indus Valley.
  • c. 500 BCE
    The kingdom of Magadha, ruled by Bimbisara, is the most powerful state in India.
  • c. 490 BCE – 410 BCE
    The life of Siddhartha Gautama or the Buddha, founder of Buddhism. The traditional date for his birth is 563 BCE, although contemporary scholarly consensus places his birth c. 490 BCE.
  • 327 BCE – 325 BCE
    Alexander’s campaign in northern India.
  • 320 BCE
    Chandragupta Maurya seizes the throne of Magadhan and expands the kingdom over northern and central India.
  • 298 BCE
    Indian ruler Chandragupta Maurya dies.
  • 298 BCE – 272 BCE
    Chandragupta’s son, Bindusara, rules and expands the Maurya Empire.
  • 273 BCE – 236 BCE
    Ashoka, grandson of Chandragupta Maurya,conquers most of central and southern India.
  • c. 269 BCE
    Ashoka becomes emperor of the Maurya dynasty in India.
  • c. 260 BCE
    Indian ruler Ashoka conquers the kingdom of Kalinga.
  • 232 BCE
    Indian ruler Ashoka dies and the Mauryaempire declines.
  • c. 200 BCE
    Beginning of the Greco-Bactrian conquests inIndia.
  • 186 BCE
    Demetrios wins a decisive battle in Gandhara, beginning the Yona (or Greek era) in India.
  • c. 165 BCE
    The Greco-Bactrian king Eucratides invadesIndia.
  • 160 BCE – 135 BCE
    Indo-Greek King Menander rules the Punjab.
  • c. 130 BCE
    Eucratids flee from Bactria to India. Rivalry between Eucratids and Euthydemids takes place in the Indo-Greek kingdoms.
  • 30 BCE
    Pepper is directly imported by Roman ships from India and its price decreases.
  • c. 1 CE
    First non-stop voyages from Egypt to India.
  • c. 1 CE – c. 100 CE
    The Mahayana movement begins in India with its belief in bodhisattva – saintly souls who helped the living.
  • 320 CE
    Gupta I founds the Gupta dynasty which would rule India for 600 years.
  • 380 CE – 415 CE
    Reign of Chandra Gupta II in India.
  • 450 CE
    India is invaded by the White Huns across theHindu Kush.
  • c. 500 CE – c. 600 CE
    In India the Tantric expands the number of deities to include helpful demons, contactable through ritual.
  • c. 550 CE
    The end of the reign of Visnugupta Chandraditya, last of the Gupta rulers in India.
  • 712 CE
    Muslim general Muhammed bin Quasimconquers northern India.